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Magnus Zombie Chow

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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:49 am Post subject: Vampire Facts: All I've come to understand. |
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I began reading the Vampire chronicals by Anne Rice, and a few years ago I read the Cirque Du Freak series by Darren Shan. After beginning reading the Vampire Chronicles, I became intrigued.
Behind every lie and/or myth there is a truth, so I decided I wished to learn about the truth behind the existance of vampires. Many different cultures around the world have had different experiences of creatures who suck blood, and to have the same myths in many different cultures who have never come in contact with each other raises questions.
I stumbled upon the website www.Haemavore.org upon my searches, which contains the so-called facts about "real" vampires. On the leave-a-comment section of the website, I met a person who said the website was filled with evil and lies, and to anybody who wished to learn the truth, they provided a link to another website which was a private chat in which I spoke to numerous people who claimed to understand REAL vampires and their place on the earth today.
Being logical, and open-minded, I wished to learn about the supposed-truth.
From the information I was provided, here is what I learned about the existance of REAL vampires in the world today (by no means is this meant for fun or entertainment such as the fvza website provides, but facts I have attempted to gain from numerous "primary sources" that contain the information based upon the REAL vampire):
- Vampires do not live forever and are not immortal, or "Undead" (they are living creatures such as you and I, and are nearly humanoid).
-A stake through the heart will most likely kill a vampire, though it will most likely kill a regular human, just as a bullet to the head (etc.) will.
-DEFINE VAMPIRE: A humanoid creature who requires "life-force" from other living beings in order to obtain the nutrition that a "normal" human being would obtain from eating standard food (meat, fruits, veggies, etc.) and/or drinking water/juice.
-A vampire who does not feed on the life-force of others as opposed to "normal" food, will be unhealthy and naturally uncapable of doing things that a perfectly healthy human (or vampire, for that matter)
is capable of.
-There are supposedly at LEAST two types of Vampires: Psi-Vampires (vampires who drain life-force from others psychologically and/or mentally, whether sub-conciously or not), and Sanguinarian Vampires (vampires who feed on the blood of other living beings, who believe that the blood contains the life-force which they need to survive healthily).
-"Real vampires" do not have any super-natural "super-powers", though a "real vampire" could be naturally stronger/faster/have better reflexes than your average human beings (i.e. a human who trains and works out his physical abilities would basically equal the strength and/or speed of a vampire who required no working-out or physical training.
-"Vampires" are not evil or kill normal humans, though they are capable of doing so just as much as another "normal" human is. Unfortunately, there are apparently some vampires who feed violently upon human beings unwillingly, though most "vampires" try to maintain a sense of good by drinking from willing donors.
-Assuming all this is fact, almost all the time vampires are born vampires, and normal humans cannot be turned into a vampire [though depending on who you talk to, some say it is possible to be turned, others say it can only be done by certain vampires (i.e. ageless vampires, which are supposedly the original vampires of the world, whom are truly immortal and have lived for centuries, or even milleniums), and others who say that being turned from human to vampire is 100% impossible].
-Oh, and "real vampires" don't really have fucking fangs.
Though I am not sure that REAL vampires truly exist, the "true facts" that are supposed to explain their existance and REAL place in the world cannot be disproved scientifically or even logically, therefore the existance of such creatures is 100% possible, and I honestly believe in these vampires.
I do not believe that the idea of a vampire was created purely out of imagination, because "vampires" are involved in so many different cultures around the world who have had no contact with each other. Because of this, I believe there must be some sort of "logical" truth behind the vampire legend, and the information I have been told and I have shared with all of you is perfectly reasonable.
Two good links I can think of:
http://vampirewebsite.net/index.html
http://www.lesvampires.org/
Please share your thoughts and ideas. |
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Judge_Khan Scourge of the Undead


Joined: 25 Dec 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: I come from a land down under, where women glow and men plunder
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:13 am Post subject: |
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I found the title of the site 'Les Vampires' somewhat misleading.
Also, until *anything* remotely supernatural or mythological in nature proves to be real (which so far, nothing has) then the existence of creatures that feed off 'energy fields' and 'life force' is suspect at the very best. _________________
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Magnus Zombie Chow

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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| Judge_Khan wrote: | I found the title of the site 'Les Vampires' somewhat misleading.
Also, until *anything* remotely supernatural or mythological in nature proves to be real (which so far, nothing has) then the existence of creatures that feed off 'energy fields' and 'life force' is suspect at the very best. |
I agree. And the apparent explaination for the website name is that "it wards off the 12 year old poser vampires" or whatever. |
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Your Rapier Wit Emo Extraordinare With a Twist!

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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be more willing to believe in the psi vamp ideaology. I know people give off energy. I can feel it tangibly sometimes. Some say its the group mentality, or whatever its called. I believe that I am an empath. I can feel other peoples emotional energy. It can do things to me, and unfortunately in the past few years, my ability to feel things sometimes have waned, and I have a few ideas why. If people wer e nervous around me, I sometimes would feel it, or if they were angry or such it would make me uncomfortable. I could just feel it in my gut sometimes or it would make me have a kind of nervous twitch. When people were happy around me though, and I could feel it, I would get a lot more energetic. I don't think Im a vampire though. But I also believe anything is possible. _________________ Precor Incendia Intus |
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anthropomorphic skitzo Shadow


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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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good read. good facts.
but to me that's not a vampire. that's just humans trying to make themselves fit into a vampire classification. they know they don't have eternal life so they say vampires don't. they know that they don't have any supernatural powers and so they say vampires don't. then they rack their brains trying to figure out something that they can claim makes them different from the average human... something that can't be disproved, so that they don't feel so average.
| Your Rapier Wit wrote: | | I'd be more willing to believe in the psi vamp ideaology. I know people give off energy. I can feel it tangibly sometimes. Some say its the group mentality, or whatever its called. I believe that I am an empath. I can feel other peoples emotional energy. It can do things to me, and unfortunately in the past few years, my ability to feel things sometimes have waned, and I have a few ideas why. If people wer e nervous around me, I sometimes would feel it, or if they were angry or such it would make me uncomfortable. I could just feel it in my gut sometimes or it would make me have a kind of nervous twitch. When people were happy around me though, and I could feel it, I would get a lot more energetic. I don't think Im a vampire though. But I also believe anything is possible. |
i know exactly what you mean. i've never tried explaining that to anyone before tho. _________________ "Would you ever say to me Clarice, stop? If you love me you'd stop?"
"I came half way around the world to watch you run Clarice, let me run huh?" |
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Taskmaster Shadow


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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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When I was in Salem I got some stuff called "Vampire Slayer" in Laurie Cabort's store www.lauriecabot.com/ (for those of you who don't know of her she's the "Official Witch of Salem," is an ordained High Priestess descended from Celtic ancestry) it a powder that supposedly protects you from PsiVampires, i'll have to take a picture when I get home today and post it for you all, not sure how I feel about Psi-Vamps, but buying a product to keep vamps away gave me a chuckle _________________ Need a job done, contact Agency X, jobs done, no questions asked, ask for Sandi
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Southern_guy Scourge of the Undead

Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 1335 Location: Louisiana
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Your Rapier Wit wrote: | | I'd be more willing to believe in the psi vamp ideaology. I know people give off energy. I can feel it tangibly sometimes. Some say its the group mentality, or whatever its called. I believe that I am an empath. I can feel other peoples emotional energy. It can do things to me, and unfortunately in the past few years, my ability to feel things sometimes have waned, and I have a few ideas why. If people wer e nervous around me, I sometimes would feel it, or if they were angry or such it would make me uncomfortable. I could just feel it in my gut sometimes or it would make me have a kind of nervous twitch. When people were happy around me though, and I could feel it, I would get a lot more energetic. I don't think Im a vampire though. But I also believe anything is possible. |
Sounds like hormones and unconscious body cues.
You might have a sense of smell sensitive enough to pick up on subtle changes in BO, and have a brain able to process people's body language much better than most people. |
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anthropomorphic skitzo Shadow


Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 750 Location: in your head
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know southern guy... though there's no flaw in that explanation I have to defend YRW's claim through telling you about my own. Which apparently differs from his, but none the less is connected or... 'in the same ball park'.
I can read a person based off their 'emotional energy'. It gives me an insight to their character. I've ignored this ability til recently. I've learned to trust it and that it is not just my conscience calculating their behavior and creating a hypothesis, but that this is an actual feeling. Sort of like when Spiderman (ya I know bare with me) says his "spidy senses" are tingling. It's a vibe I get from someone and this is not unheard of so I'm sure anyone is capable of the same ability.
However, some people are blank. If they aren't feeling anything inside then I can't read them. But if they have something on their mind and they produce an emotion linked to their thoughts, I can tell you what they're thinking, feeling, or what they've done (if its in that moment but not something from a while back) or are about to do. Majority of the time their present mood will be jolted into me and will effect me like YRW described his deal above. I've learned how to make my own mood over power theirs (for lack of better words) so that I don't have to feel what they do if I don't want it. You know how if a person is feeling down it brings you down too? Or if someone is jittery, or wound up, or hyper, it effects your mood too? We're all capable of this empathy thing but some are more aware to it then others I guess. Then there's the other thing I was describing. About being able to read a person's character by using this empath ability. For example, some people give off a dangerous vibe, sends a message to me that I need to stir clear of them because they are fucked in the head. Those type of people I can't shake, I have to just leave the area that they're in if I don't want that feeling inside me. Or sometimes, and not often, I can be out somewhere and a sudden rush of fear flows through me for a sec, like a warning about something or some one. I try to rap up whatever I'm doing at that moment just in case it really is my gut trying to warn me about something. Every time I've ever ignored a feeling, it didn't work out for the best.
Once in a while, like maybe 2 or 3 times in a year at most, suddenly a sickening, disturbing, feeling runs through my heart and my stomach and I just know something awful is happening but I don't know where or to whom. I hate that feeling most of all cause I can't do anything about it or make it go away.
Anyway, excluding the last one, these are things I've heard of people experiencing before. I think we are all able to give off as well as receive such vibes and consume others emotions etc. I think it's part of the human and animal biology. _________________ "Would you ever say to me Clarice, stop? If you love me you'd stop?"
"I came half way around the world to watch you run Clarice, let me run huh?" |
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Southern_guy Scourge of the Undead

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting...have you had any bad experiences happen to you or a friend after you have had the awful feeling, or a major catastrophe occur? |
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anthropomorphic skitzo Shadow


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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Not that I can recall. I suppose it'll always be something I don't understand. It's just an awful feeling that I can't fully describe.
Bad things never sieze and so i say it's impossible to later pin point which event triggered the feeling. _________________ "Would you ever say to me Clarice, stop? If you love me you'd stop?"
"I came half way around the world to watch you run Clarice, let me run huh?" |
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Your Rapier Wit Emo Extraordinare With a Twist!

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:30 am Post subject: |
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I can say that I have. I have had some family members pass away on me. I mean we knew it was getting close, but I just had bad feelings and moments later, I got phone calls. I could tell when my papa was around too as a spirit. A few nights after he passed I felt him, he was standing over me. My aunt who has a stronger sense, and some wierd frickin abilities too said she felt him. My grandmother did, my little cousin Kobe is afraid to sleep in his room. Not unusual for a kid, but at seven years old, he tells you that he sees papa in his room sometimes, yea. I know my house has spirits, it always has, ever since I was kid, not to mention one time at age 17, I got the shit scared out of me.
Sitting in the living room, with my grandfather, and my little cousin, Im on the phone, eating some corn pops, I remember exactly what I was eating. I was talkin to some dumb girl, and hung up. It was the one night that my uncle and all my aunts went out to the bars, and my uncle never goes out. So the house is just us. As Im gettin ready to get up and put my bowl in the sink, I hear someone walking around upstairs. No one is around. Its not the house creaking, because I know when its creaking. Lived there most of my life. Someone walks from the bathroom, to my room, then halfway down the stairs. My gramp had alzheimers, and my cousin was asleep. I was scared outa my mind. Called my gram and told her, to which she just said I was bein a baby. Scared the crap out of me.
My aunt however, she sees things in her dreams, and she sees things too, but thats for a different thread. Some freaky stuff too. It could however just be a scientific way of reading biochemistry or something of the nature. Who knows? _________________ Precor Incendia Intus |
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anthropomorphic skitzo Shadow


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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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my aunt claims to be psychic and her sister, which is my mom, has often seen things in her dreams then in actuality they would happen. I remember this one event that she told me of. She described a wreck between two cars. The details are fuzzy now, but it was something about one car being upside down and another hanging off of a steep drop off... like a cliff I guess. She told me and her husband whom she was married to at the time. Then on her way to work I think, while she was driving down the road, she called her husband all freaked out because she had seen the wrecked from her dream. She had to pull over to the side of the road for a breather cause she was so shocked and I suppose horrified too.
only difference was that in the dream, it was she and I in the car that dangled from the steep drop off. In the dream she held my hand and kept saying 'pumkin I love you.'
I use to have horrible dreams about people I didn't know. Horrible things would happen to these families and to teens or children at school. These dreams were re-occuring and every time I woke up from these dreams, I'd fall back asleep and the dream would pick up right where it left off. I hated it and would pray that I'd stop seeing those kind of things. Told God I was affraid to sleep. Now I don't have them. I'm thankful too. I don't want a 'gift' like that. I'd rather be oblivious than to know such stomach churning things.
There's more I could say. More on family having related to this too. But like YRW pointed out, these things should probably be better suited in another thread. _________________ "Would you ever say to me Clarice, stop? If you love me you'd stop?"
"I came half way around the world to watch you run Clarice, let me run huh?" |
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anthropomorphic skitzo Shadow


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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | -"Real vampires" do not have any super-natural "super-powers", though a "real vampire" could be naturally stronger/faster/have better reflexes than your average human beings (i.e. a human who trains and works out his physical abilities would basically equal the strength and/or speed of a vampire who required no working-out or physical training. |
So then in order for a normal human to be like a vampire, one would only have to work out and eat right. A vampire has only the same abilities as a human who is in top physical condition but a vampire doesn't have to work out to get all that. I assume they receive it from their life-force.
What about heightened senses? I have always been able to tell if something is about to happen that will effect me directly. For example, a ball coming in my direction that I should duck and dodge. As a child I could even turn around in time and catch the ball. Haha, not trying to relate myself to a vamp. Just saying that it sounds to me, that these people from these sites who claim to know what a REAL vampire is, are mistaking adrenaline rush and common human reflexes that everyone of us have, but some of us haven't tapped into it. Or some may have but brushed it off as nothing, a freak incident. I think these type people are looking for a way to link themselves to something as popular and mystique as the vampire has become.
Otherwise, according to these quotes from these people at these sites posted by Magnus (which are an interesting take) I'm a vampire. Because I don't work out. I certainly don't train my body. Is the only other explanation for my random bursts of strength, reflexes, and speed, that I must be one of the two breeds of vampire?
Yeah... I'm gonna side with the legend that has made its way across the globe, appearing in every culture and under every rock where humanity can be found... which says a vampire is immortal, drinks of blood or else will die, etc etc. _________________ "Would you ever say to me Clarice, stop? If you love me you'd stop?"
"I came half way around the world to watch you run Clarice, let me run huh?" |
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The Unbeholden Guest
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| anthropomorphic skitzo wrote: | good read. good facts.
but to me that's not a vampire. that's just humans trying to make themselves fit into a vampire classification. they know they don't have eternal life so they say vampires don't. they know that they don't have any supernatural powers and so they say vampires don't. then they rack their brains trying to figure out something that they can claim makes them different from the average human... something that can't be disproved, so that they don't feel so average.
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Essentially yes. Funny thing is that these so called mortal vampires (which is laughable, like the idea of vampire hunters) are a good cover for Real Immortal Vampires. The more certain human beings start to believe that they themselves are vampires, the more vampires will seem like fiction to the rest.
And This is exactly whats happened with vampire mythology. The word of mouth of people over countless generations from many different civilizations has a tendency to blur things quite a bit until its looses its coherency. This mythology once taken seriously from it's respective civilization, has been turned into Vampire novels, movies, roleplaying games ect... But of course this is exactly what vampires want, to keep their secret, a secret.
But then again the vampire mythology also suggests that vampires are real. Many different civilizations have mythology of a vampire like creature, Civilizations that at the time, never had contact with one another. Coincidence? I would say its hard to believe its just a big coincidence.
In actuality they are the only supernatural being that is real (that I know of). And thus are not supernatural, cause that would mean that it isn't naturally possible... and all things come from nature.
So from all this jumbled mythology, what scraps of truth is in it? The only things I know for certain; is that vampires are physically immortal, and kill humans on a day to day basis (some do more then one a night). There's a vampire government to make sure that the laws are obeyed. Vampires must ask permission to 'turn' someone.... and of course simply biting someone one won't turn them, it's not that easy. Evidence of vampire killings is of course covered by different means, usually much simpler means then you'd think. Even with all the vampire related deaths, the rate at which humans are being born is still higher then the rate they are dieing.
There is the occasional person that saw something weird or what not... but nobody would believe a person and would go into the "I saw a UFO!!" nut cases/attention seekers category.
Internet is just a public urinal, so nobody would believe anything on it even if it did have some 'vaguely' convincing evidence.
At the current moment, vampirism is the only way to become immortal. For the time being.
How do I know? I know someone who does that saw physical proof. Of course this person supplied me with the information. But hes absolutely dead serious and I've never known this person to lie to me about anything, let alone something as big as this. Though in the end what does it matter? Does this knowledge give us anything? Are we happier knowing? Does it give us solace? To some yes. But overall there's not really much we can do about it even if some of us who (without a shadow of a doubt) know.
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Vampyre13 Dale of the Dead

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Sheriff Vamp here.
Just curious there... Unbeholden.
How it is you've been a member since ..well.. today... yet
have already obtained Scourge post status with over 16 million posts?
With only 2 searchable. (when i checked)
Guess you students down under there are getting smarter at hacking forum boards and accounts from the west side of the continent.?
Hrm.. interesting indeed.
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